should obama have gone to the bscouts 100th instead of view?

randi · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:15 pm

i think obama was not able to attend the boy scout's 100th jubilee celebration because he went and did the view show.

hmmm, do you think this was wise?

and yes i realize not all president's go to this.

Maryann J · **Joined:** Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:02 pm **Posts:** 1098

I hate it when a POTUS goes on an entertainment type of show. IMO, it cheapens the dignity of the presidential office.

Obama probably should have gone to the 100th Boy Scouts birthday instead of "The View". I never watch the show, so I wouldn't have seen him on it anyway (if it has even aired yet).

Lindy · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:32 pm

I agree with you Maryann J. It cheapens the office, and why a show like The View? I am a Democrat, but I did NOTvote for this man and will be very glad when he is out of office. He is like a kid running around in a candy store.

michelle2 · **Joined:** Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:05 pm **Posts:** 3268

I don't know. Was he elected to do either of them?

I think going on the View is about as dumb as someone can get (you know, except for watching it).

But acting like the Boy Scout Jamboree is some sort of Presidential obligation is just ridiculous.

How about we the people act like grownups for once?

randi · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:08 pm

i think, but i'm not sure, that obama as president has some sort of either honorary or type of thingie position with the scouts.

sorry, can't remember titles tho? but somebody here will know.

and i'm not a view typey person. in fact, no talk shows at all.

erika · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:19 pm

Going on to the View was a waste of time. What next Leno?

He should be meeting w/border states governors, state legislators to dialogue about the impact of the Fed govt not doing its job of stopping illegal immigration has on those states

DeeD · **Joined:** Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:47 am **Posts:** 1337

The president serves as the Honorary Chairman of the BSA and signs Eagle Scout cards.

Should he have gone? Maybe. Are there more important things going on? Definitely. Did it look bad picking The View over Jamboree? Yes.

My problem with it is that he was invited 2 months ago, and only told them 2 days before he was scheduled to speak that he wouldn't be there. (Now, maybe they new before hand because security would have been different if he was planning on coming?) And to pass it up for The View, a show that can schedule guests 5 days a week, and would more than likely bump God himself to fit in O, instead of an even that happens once every 4 years ... bad form, I say, bad form.

michelle2 · **Joined:** Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:05 pm **Posts:** 3268

DeeD wrote:

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My problem with it is that he was invited 2 months ago, and only told them 2 days before he was scheduled to speak that he wouldn't be there. (Now, maybe they new before hand because security would have been different if he was planning on coming?) And to pass it up for The View, a show that can schedule guests 5 days a week, and would more than likely bump God himself to fit in O, instead of an even that happens once every 4 years ... bad form, I say, bad form.

Ah, then you have no problem with it. The Boy Scouts themselves say they 1) knew the President's attendance was a maybe and 2) were informed two months ago that the President would not attend.

This is my problem with right wing media. How many of the wingnut bloggers have been spreading the lie about the two days notice? How many of the rightwing base have passed on the same untruth?

Yet how very easy it was to find out the truth.

Do I suppose that any of the rightwingers who've spread the story will go back and retract it? Any of the bloggers going to issue a correction?

Of course not.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07 ... ew-taping/

krisk · **Joined:** Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:28 pm **Posts:** 3960

Who cares, well, except for those who are willing to find anything and everything to complain about when it comes to Obama.

DeeD · **Joined:** Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:47 am **Posts:** 1337

michelle2 wrote:

Ah, then you have no problem with it. The Boy Scouts themselves say they 1) knew the President's attendance was a maybe and 2) were informed two months ago that the President would not attend.

Believe it or not, I don't read foxnews.com, so that's not where I got the 2 days before. But it is interesting that your blasting 'right wing media' then site Fox in reporting that reported BSA new 2 months in advance that he wasn't going to be there.

Here's the thing I read:

[url=http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-picks-The-View-over-appearing-at-Boy-Scouts-100th-anniversary-celebration-99311489.html]Obama picks 'The View' over appearing at Boy Scouts' 100th anniversary celebration
[/url]

Quote:

Bob Dries, chairman of national news and media at the Boy Scouts of America Jamboree – a gathering that happens every four years and attracts thousands of scouts from around the world – told CNSNews.com that the organization was told on Monday that the president had scheduling conflicts and would not be speaking in-person at the week-long event.

So we have a chairman of national news vs. a spokesman with different stories. Who knows which is right.

Personally, I don't care one way or the other if he showed up, but I just think it looks poor that fundraisers and The View are more important than honoring the BSA. Actually, I am relieved that I didn't have to worry about my son being disrespectful since O didn't go (my son is at the Jamboree) - he's not exactly a fan and being young, he doesn't always think before he acts.

Judy G. · **Joined:** Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:42 pm **Posts:** 2740

Obama knew these young men would not sing praises to him. Remember the young singers singing "Obama's going to lead us?" It's all about O.

IMO, he did these young men a favor.

Miranda731 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:35 am

I didn't watch The View, though I think I can understand why the President might choose to appear on a show that might get him an audience of those people who just don't watch much news.

And I have to admit that I would probably have been mildly annoyed if he did appear at a function of a sectarian organization like the Boy Scouts. For that matter, why show them favoritism? Would he then also have to accomodate the Girl Scouts, Camp Fire Girls, and/or Spiral Scouts (the one of those I can actually support).

michelle2 · **Joined:** Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:05 pm **Posts:** 3268

DeeD wrote:

michelle2 wrote:

Ah, then you have no problem with it. The Boy Scouts themselves say they 1) knew the President's attendance was a maybe and 2) were informed two months ago that the President would not attend.

Believe it or not, I don't read foxnews.com, so that's not where I got the 2 days before. But it is interesting that your blasting 'right wing media' then site Fox in reporting that reported BSA new 2 months in advance that he wasn't going to be there.

Here's the thing I read:

[url=http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-picks-The-View-over-appearing-at-Boy-Scouts-100th-anniversary-celebration-99311489.html]Obama picks 'The View' over appearing at Boy Scouts' 100th anniversary celebration
[/url]

Quote:

Bob Dries, chairman of national news and media at the Boy Scouts of America Jamboree – a gathering that happens every four years and attracts thousands of scouts from around the world – told CNSNews.com that the organization was told on Monday that the president had scheduling conflicts and would not be speaking in-person at the week-long event.

So we have a chairman of national news vs. a spokesman with different stories. Who knows which is right.

Personally, I don't care one way or the other if he showed up, but I just think it looks poor that fundraisers and The View are more important than honoring the BSA. Actually, I am relieved that I didn't have to worry about my son being disrespectful since O didn't go (my son is at the Jamboree) - he's not exactly a fan and being young, he doesn't always think before he acts.

Oh, come on, Dee. You claim that your only problem was the last minute notice. When you find out you've been spreading false rumors, you have a choice. Either admit it, and refudiate your complaints, or continue to defend the untruth.

Aaaannd... which do the wingnuts choose?

Surprise, surprise.

JaniceC · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:58 pm

I watched the show and I found it very informative even Elizabeth seems impressed with some of his answers.

There were serious questions asked and answered and yes, there were stupid questions as well but he handled them.

DeeD · **Joined:** Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:47 am **Posts:** 1337

michelle2 wrote:

DeeD wrote:

michelle2 wrote:

Ah, then you have no problem with it. The Boy Scouts themselves say they 1) knew the President's attendance was a maybe and 2) were informed two months ago that the President would not attend.

Believe it or not, I don't read foxnews.com, so that's not where I got the 2 days before. But it is interesting that your blasting 'right wing media' then site Fox in reporting that reported BSA new 2 months in advance that he wasn't going to be there.

Here's the thing I read:

[url=http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-picks-The-View-over-appearing-at-Boy-Scouts-100th-anniversary-celebration-99311489.html]Obama picks 'The View' over appearing at Boy Scouts' 100th anniversary celebration
[/url]

Quote:

Bob Dries, chairman of national news and media at the Boy Scouts of America Jamboree – a gathering that happens every four years and attracts thousands of scouts from around the world – told CNSNews.com that the organization was told on Monday that the president had scheduling conflicts and would not be speaking in-person at the week-long event.

So we have a chairman of national news vs. a spokesman with different stories. Who knows which is right.

Personally, I don't care one way or the other if he showed up, but I just think it looks poor that fundraisers and The View are more important than honoring the BSA. Actually, I am relieved that I didn't have to worry about my son being disrespectful since O didn't go (my son is at the Jamboree) - he's not exactly a fan and being young, he doesn't always think before he acts.

Oh, come on, Dee. You claim that your only problem was the last minute notice. When you find out you've been spreading false rumors, you have a choice. Either admit it, and refudiate your complaints, or continue to defend the untruth.

Aaaannd... which do the wingnuts choose?

Surprise, surprise.

So there are two sources siting different information, and my source has to be the wrong one? This has got to be the first time ever that you site Fox News as being factual; most of the time you blast it for being GOP media and biased. Your stance that you won't acknowledge a legitimate conflict in reporting just makes you look unreasonable and blinded to a political agenda, pretty much the same you accuse me of.

krisk · **Joined:** Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:28 pm **Posts:** 3960

Judy G. wrote:

Obama knew these young men would not sing praises to him. Remember the young singers singing "Obama's going to lead us?" It's all about O.

IMO, he did these young men a favor.

Riiiiiiight, you can for tell the future and know, w/o a doubt, the reception Obama would have received from these very civilized and polite young men and boys. Sheeeesh.

If Obama had chosen to attend the BSA and when the boys had cheered the radical right and Fixed News would have likened Obama to Hitler and the Hitler Youth..........

BTW, anyone remember when George & Laura Bush were interviewed by Dr. Phil who has a (horrors) day time show, while Bush was president?

Judy G. · **Joined:** Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:42 pm **Posts:** 2740

krisk wrote:

Judy G. wrote:

Obama knew these young men would not sing praises to him. Remember the young singers singing "Obama's going to lead us?" It's all about O.

IMO, he did these young men a favor.

Riiiiiiight, you can for tell the future and know, w/o a doubt, the reception Obama would have received from these very civilized and polite young men and boys. Sheeeesh.

Yeah, somehow I can't see the BS chanting to the President as if he were a deity as those children did during his campaign.

krisk wrote:

If Obama had chosen to attend the BSA and when the boys had cheered the radical right and Fixed News would have likened Obama to Hitler and the Hitler Youth..........

Now who is projecting?

krisk wrote:

BTW, anyone remember when George & Laura Bush were interviewed by Dr. Phil who has a (horrors) day time show, while Bush was president?

No, but I don't watch shows like this.

I do think these types of shows are beneath the dignity of the office of president.

krisk · **Joined:** Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:28 pm **Posts:** 3960

Judy G. wrote:

krisk wrote:

Judy G. wrote:

Obama knew these young men would not sing praises to him. Remember the young singers singing "Obama's going to lead us?" It's all about O.

IMO, he did these young men a favor.

You wish

Riiiiiiight, you can for tell the future and know, w/o a doubt, the reception Obama would have received from these very civilized and polite young men and boys. Sheeeesh.

Yeah, somehow I can't see the BS chanting to the President as if he were a deity as those children did during his campaign.

krisk wrote:

BTW, anyone remember when George & Laura Bush were interviewed by Dr. Phil who has a (horrors) day time show, while Bush was president?

No, but I don't watch shows like this.

I do think these types of shows are beneath the dignity of the office of president.

No so much different. And a big who cares, felt that when Bush was on Dr Phil too.

DeeD · **Joined:** Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:47 am **Posts:** 1337

Okay, if Obama really wasn't planning on being there, why is he the feature on Patch of the Day for 7/28, day 3, opening show?

2010 National Jamboree Patch of the Day 7/28 Brand New

On another note, as I mentioned before my son is at Jamboree. I was a little worried - the troop's sponsor is very big on the color pink - its a very important local company that has capitalized on the color of their product in promotions, etc. and they nicely provided pink shirts and pink patches and pink hats for the boys to wear. I'm like pink?!? thinking the boys would be harassed for wearing such a girly color. Well, according to my son, it has turned in to one of the most traded-for patches, some even wanting the t-shirts and hats. Thought that was cute; silly me for worrying.

CafeGirl · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:40 am

I thought the current president had to sign the Eagle Scouts certificates too because my son's was signed by President George W. Bush.

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